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		<title>By: Marketing Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.fusednation.com/seo/heh-gotta-love-the-seo-community/comment-page-1/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh looks like I got confused as well. :)  I read the WmW post shortly after reading a SEOroundtable summary of a pubcon session (link in my original post), where Brian White from Google is quoted as saying:

&quot;Types of dup include multiple URLs going to same page...&quot;

The discussion was realting to dup content and &quot;page&quot; was referring to &quot;content&quot; (ie 2 different URLs for the same content causes dup content issues).

And to try and salvage some relevance from this post (:)) I do agree with Adam&#039;s comments on your blog - from a user point of view, confusing link structure is a turn off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh looks like I got confused as well. <img src='http://www.fusednation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I read the WmW post shortly after reading a SEOroundtable summary of a pubcon session (link in my original post), where Brian White from Google is quoted as saying:</p>
<p>&#8220;Types of dup include multiple URLs going to same page&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The discussion was realting to dup content and &#8220;page&#8221; was referring to &#8220;content&#8221; (ie 2 different URLs for the same content causes dup content issues).</p>
<p>And to try and salvage some relevance from this post (:)) I do agree with Adam&#8217;s comments on your blog &#8211; from a user point of view, confusing link structure is a turn off.</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
		<link>http://www.fusednation.com/seo/heh-gotta-love-the-seo-community/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam said in comments that he indeed was speaking about two links on a page pointing to the same place. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://speakingfreely.wordpress.com/2006/11/20/link-locomotion-think-before-you-link/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Adam  on Links&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam said in comments that he indeed was speaking about two links on a page pointing to the same place. </p>
<p><a href="http://speakingfreely.wordpress.com/2006/11/20/link-locomotion-think-before-you-link/#comments" rel="nofollow">Adam  on Links</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marketing Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.fusednation.com/seo/heh-gotta-love-the-seo-community/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah interesting approach - certainly the use of synonyms for on page optimisation is fairly common practice so its logical to assume that internal link text is factored in the same way.

Plus the creation of mini hubs within a site is just good logical design - integration (for example) blog posts that feed category news headlines to mini hubs can create great entry points for a site that are much more likely to encourage natural linking.

It&#039;s really the difference between bog standard dry SEO (the same keyword in H1, title, links, etc) and more advanced SEO-meets-marketing, which IMO is the way forward as &quot;templated&quot; SEO is becoming more antiquated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah interesting approach &#8211; certainly the use of synonyms for on page optimisation is fairly common practice so its logical to assume that internal link text is factored in the same way.</p>
<p>Plus the creation of mini hubs within a site is just good logical design &#8211; integration (for example) blog posts that feed category news headlines to mini hubs can create great entry points for a site that are much more likely to encourage natural linking.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really the difference between bog standard dry SEO (the same keyword in H1, title, links, etc) and more advanced SEO-meets-marketing, which IMO is the way forward as &#8220;templated&#8221; SEO is becoming more antiquated.</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
		<link>http://www.fusednation.com/seo/heh-gotta-love-the-seo-community/comment-page-1/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the impact can be quite noticeable if done correctly. 

For example, page2 links to page1 with a link from the first paragraph- Z-28 LT1 Modifications

page3 links with How to Perk up Your LT1

page4 links with More Added Horsepower Bolt-ons for LT1 Engines

etc. All in-context, all relevant, and from pages on how to increase horsepower for Z-28 LT1 engines. 

I like to create mini-authority pages within the site. In addition, create a mini-hub, where a single page that links to all the LTI horsepower increase techniques. 

The rather than try to acquire inbound links to the homepage, I can concentrate on acquiring links to the mini-hub page, and gain better control over what pages I promote in the SERPs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the impact can be quite noticeable if done correctly. </p>
<p>For example, page2 links to page1 with a link from the first paragraph- Z-28 LT1 Modifications</p>
<p>page3 links with How to Perk up Your LT1</p>
<p>page4 links with More Added Horsepower Bolt-ons for LT1 Engines</p>
<p>etc. All in-context, all relevant, and from pages on how to increase horsepower for Z-28 LT1 engines. </p>
<p>I like to create mini-authority pages within the site. In addition, create a mini-hub, where a single page that links to all the LTI horsepower increase techniques. </p>
<p>The rather than try to acquire inbound links to the homepage, I can concentrate on acquiring links to the mini-hub page, and gain better control over what pages I promote in the SERPs.</p>
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		<title>By: Marketing Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.fusednation.com/seo/heh-gotta-love-the-seo-community/comment-page-1/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps but do you think the impact will be noticable if any at all?

I read on the various PubCon posts that named anchors are treated as such (and don&#039;t cause duplicate content).

Therefore:

www.example.com/page1.htm
www.example.com/page1.htm#widget
www.example.com/page1.htm#stuff

...would all be viewed as the main URL www.example.com/page1.htm (ignoring the #element) and not cause duplication, but would be seen as 3 URLs pointing to the same page (from the same source).

I&#039;m sure that example is used frequently and innocently.

Another example - you have regular text link to a page, and maybe an image (advert) promoting that page also - fair use.

In these cases (and IMO even the example of the 2 page sales pitch type site) the links do suggest where the important content is held and as such number of links to any page from any one other page may be a factor (to a certain extent before it gets labelled as spam).

I&#039;m not too up to speed with the technical nitty gritty of the PR algo - does it go into detail about same-page multi-linking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps but do you think the impact will be noticable if any at all?</p>
<p>I read on the various PubCon posts that named anchors are treated as such (and don&#8217;t cause duplicate content).</p>
<p>Therefore:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.example.com/page1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.example.com/page1.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.example.com/page1.htm#widget" rel="nofollow">http://www.example.com/page1.htm#widget</a><br />
<a href="http://www.example.com/page1.htm#stuff" rel="nofollow">http://www.example.com/page1.htm#stuff</a></p>
<p>&#8230;would all be viewed as the main URL <a href="http://www.example.com/page1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.example.com/page1.htm</a> (ignoring the #element) and not cause duplication, but would be seen as 3 URLs pointing to the same page (from the same source).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that example is used frequently and innocently.</p>
<p>Another example &#8211; you have regular text link to a page, and maybe an image (advert) promoting that page also &#8211; fair use.</p>
<p>In these cases (and IMO even the example of the 2 page sales pitch type site) the links do suggest where the important content is held and as such number of links to any page from any one other page may be a factor (to a certain extent before it gets labelled as spam).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not too up to speed with the technical nitty gritty of the PR algo &#8211; does it go into detail about same-page multi-linking?</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
		<link>http://www.fusednation.com/seo/heh-gotta-love-the-seo-community/comment-page-1/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t worry too much about replicated navigation links, but those in-context links are a different story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t worry too much about replicated navigation links, but those in-context links are a different story.</p>
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		<title>By: Link Locomotion - Think Before You Link &#171; Speaking Freely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Link Locomotion - Think Before You Link &#171; Speaking Freely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post about links and duplicate content,Â  followed up by this post on links and the SEO community, coupled with my weekend browsing of HO scale model train accessories brought up some points about linking that I feel are often overlooked. Bear with my comparison theme here, after all, I spent the entire weekend working on model trains&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post about links and duplicate content,Â  followed up by this post on links and the SEO community, coupled with my weekend browsing of HO scale model train accessories brought up some points about linking that I feel are often overlooked. Bear with my comparison theme here, after all, I spent the entire weekend working on model trains&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marketing Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.fusednation.com/seo/heh-gotta-love-the-seo-community/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think multiple links from one page to another is that big a deal (probably doesn&#039;t have any SEO impact).  Most sites I designed (before I got lazy and started using CMSs) had header, footer and side navigation to key pages, so any given page would have 3 links to home, contact, about, etc.  Fairly standard design process IMO.

MG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think multiple links from one page to another is that big a deal (probably doesn&#8217;t have any SEO impact).  Most sites I designed (before I got lazy and started using CMSs) had header, footer and side navigation to key pages, so any given page would have 3 links to home, contact, about, etc.  Fairly standard design process IMO.</p>
<p>MG</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that thread was over when it became apparent that what was meant by Adam was that two URLs shouldn&#039;t have the same content.  Sorted with 301s and robots.txt. 

With that said, I still think that much more attention needs to be paid to link structures. When is it necessary to have two or more links on the same page point to another page? I see that technique used often on MLM sites that usually consist of two pages, the home page, which is usually a long text page, and the action page, which is linked to several times from the home page. For example, &#039;Make Money From Home&quot; as anchor text used 15 times on the home page  pointing to the action page. 

I also see the same technique used by people that want several phrases with different keywords in anchor text on one page. I don&#039;t like either technique.

Granted, that wasn&#039;t the question being asked by the original poster, (although that intent could be inferred from the poster&#039;s choice of phrasing). 

So, what does it say to a search engine when a single page has 2 or 5 or 8 links pointing to another page? How does that affect the flow of PageRank (or page importance if you prefer)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that thread was over when it became apparent that what was meant by Adam was that two URLs shouldn&#8217;t have the same content.  Sorted with 301s and robots.txt. </p>
<p>With that said, I still think that much more attention needs to be paid to link structures. When is it necessary to have two or more links on the same page point to another page? I see that technique used often on MLM sites that usually consist of two pages, the home page, which is usually a long text page, and the action page, which is linked to several times from the home page. For example, &#8216;Make Money From Home&#8221; as anchor text used 15 times on the home page  pointing to the action page. </p>
<p>I also see the same technique used by people that want several phrases with different keywords in anchor text on one page. I don&#8217;t like either technique.</p>
<p>Granted, that wasn&#8217;t the question being asked by the original poster, (although that intent could be inferred from the poster&#8217;s choice of phrasing). </p>
<p>So, what does it say to a search engine when a single page has 2 or 5 or 8 links pointing to another page? How does that affect the flow of PageRank (or page importance if you prefer)?</p>
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		<title>By: Marketing Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.fusednation.com/seo/heh-gotta-love-the-seo-community/comment-page-1/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man I just managed to get my own comment on my own blog filtered into Askimet spam filter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man I just managed to get my own comment on my own blog filtered into Askimet spam filter!</p>
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