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	<title>Comments on: SEO agency ethics &amp; why the industry needs a kick in the backside</title>
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		<title>By: Marketing Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.fusednation.com/general/rants/seo-agency-ethics-why-the-industry-needs-a-kick-in-the-backside/comment-page-1/#comment-694</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh I totally agree.  A lot of people would argue that blogs, articles and forum posts, etc somewhat give the game away and it&#039;s more sensible for agencies to keep &quot;what they know&quot; tight to their chests.  But as you said, it all works towards educating our consumers which has got to be good for the industry in the long term.

MG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh I totally agree.  A lot of people would argue that blogs, articles and forum posts, etc somewhat give the game away and it&#8217;s more sensible for agencies to keep &#8220;what they know&#8221; tight to their chests.  But as you said, it all works towards educating our consumers which has got to be good for the industry in the long term.</p>
<p>MG</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Hobson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Hobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree fully with the need to promote greater ethics in SEO - and life in general.  Being that the unscrupulous will not abide by good standards I feel that it is incumbent upon ethical SEO providers to educate all prospects.  We always set a realistic set of expectations with prospects including a clear statement that &quot;no SEO firm, including ours, can promise any level of results&quot; and further explain in detail what we will do and will not do.  I believe that even if we are not the chosen vendor I do want the prospect to be able to select a good and decent provider.  I believe that not only is this the proper action to take but that it also creates goodwill that will come back to you. (And if nothing else it makes it more difficult for the low lifes to muck up our business).  

Thanks Mom &amp; Dad for teaching me the difference between right and wrong.   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree fully with the need to promote greater ethics in SEO &#8211; and life in general.  Being that the unscrupulous will not abide by good standards I feel that it is incumbent upon ethical SEO providers to educate all prospects.  We always set a realistic set of expectations with prospects including a clear statement that &#8220;no SEO firm, including ours, can promise any level of results&#8221; and further explain in detail what we will do and will not do.  I believe that even if we are not the chosen vendor I do want the prospect to be able to select a good and decent provider.  I believe that not only is this the proper action to take but that it also creates goodwill that will come back to you. (And if nothing else it makes it more difficult for the low lifes to muck up our business).  </p>
<p>Thanks Mom &amp; Dad for teaching me the difference between right and wrong.   <img src='http://www.fusednation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Marketing Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marketing Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say that in the past around 40% of my client work has come from clients who had been with other SEOs and didn&#039;t get results (or worse, got banned or penalised) - since going freelance, I&#039;ve seen almost 80% of the clients I speak to have had past experience (almost always negative) with other SEO agencies.

There are a few agencies kicking about the UK just now that have a bad rep for killing their client&#039;s sites - I end up hearing their names from businesses once or twice a month.

I think if businesses started looking at legal action for some of the dodgy stuff that was being done to their sites then it could set an interesting precident.

MG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say that in the past around 40% of my client work has come from clients who had been with other SEOs and didn&#8217;t get results (or worse, got banned or penalised) &#8211; since going freelance, I&#8217;ve seen almost 80% of the clients I speak to have had past experience (almost always negative) with other SEO agencies.</p>
<p>There are a few agencies kicking about the UK just now that have a bad rep for killing their client&#8217;s sites &#8211; I end up hearing their names from businesses once or twice a month.</p>
<p>I think if businesses started looking at legal action for some of the dodgy stuff that was being done to their sites then it could set an interesting precident.</p>
<p>MG</p>
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		<title>By: David Eaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Eaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assholes, it&#039;s c**ts like these that give the SEO industry a bad name, for a start reciprocal linking is dead and has been for a while and for them to actually go and remove the links that they had done that this company had paid for is bitter and skandalous, there are still a few of these dodgy companies about, I got a client recently who had paid a lump some for SEO as well as Â£100 per month for reciprocal linking, the so called SEO company had done 3 reciprocal links, the site had 0 results on Google, MSN or Yahoo, same keyword stuffed title and description on every page and it was in the supplementals on G,  I wont name the company but it could be the same one you are talking about, I felt like I was cleaning up a big mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assholes, it&#8217;s c**ts like these that give the SEO industry a bad name, for a start reciprocal linking is dead and has been for a while and for them to actually go and remove the links that they had done that this company had paid for is bitter and skandalous, there are still a few of these dodgy companies about, I got a client recently who had paid a lump some for SEO as well as Â£100 per month for reciprocal linking, the so called SEO company had done 3 reciprocal links, the site had 0 results on Google, MSN or Yahoo, same keyword stuffed title and description on every page and it was in the supplementals on G,  I wont name the company but it could be the same one you are talking about, I felt like I was cleaning up a big mess.</p>
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